https://anchor.fm/s/f5aa3ad4/podcast/play/128928550/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-10-6%2Fa62299f5-9287-9e8f-aa18-48ceeaf57c41.mp3 – Monica vs. Dave