https://anchor.fm/s/f5aa3ad4/podcast/play/127397803/https%3A%2F%2Fd3ctxlq1ktw2nl.cloudfront.net%2Fstaging%2F2026-9-13%2F138b6ea3-52d2-f05c-69b6-2c2a00e0d47c.mp3 – And why is she calm about it??